I wanted to make a quick post about this because I really hope as many people as possible see the recent New York Times article that was published featuring a couple of the youtube "gurus" that we love to hate; namely, the QVC sisters Elle and Blair. We all know that these girls demand outrageous amounts of money for the reviews they do on pointless crap that they likely wont ever use again after the review, but now, thanks to this article, we know exactly how much these greedy sisters demand;
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/fashion/06skin.html?pagewanted=2
$4000?! REALLY, Elle? And for "editing costs", no less. Biggest bullshit I've ever heard. The Sunlove company has been known for posting ads on Craiglist offering anywhere from $100 - $1000 for a review, so we assumed Elle had received a payment closer to the thousand dollar range, but $4000.. fuck. How COULD you give anything other than a positive review after demanding so much money?
I couldn't be happier that some of the recent news articles featuring these fraud sisters have been starting to call them out. For so long, their naive subscribers has insisted on defending them so hopefully some of these articles will help them discover that Elle and Blair really don't give a shit about their subscribers; just like everyone has been saying on this blog for months.
Even though the fraud sisters have claimed time after time that they make videos purely for their subscribers and would do it even if they weren't getting paid, these articles tell a different side. In addition to making money from youtube, Elle has also recently signed up for sponsored tweets, in which she receives $400 every time she tweets about one of the sponsored topics.
Another one of their recent bullshit scams includes the video that Blair put up today, featuring Miranda Cosgrove;
"I was already going to be in the area visiting family" - uhh ACTUALLY, you tweeted that you were going to be in Atlanta specifically for business..
Blair also tweeted something to the extent that her and Miranda were friends, just hanging out, nothing business about it..
Yes, they were clearly just hanging out, shopping, like the best friends Blair made them out to be.. I know when I go shopping with my friends, I always wear a mic pack and have cameras follow me around.. oh and I ALWAYS interview my friends about their lives...
Did anyone notice the pass that little "Hannah" was wearing around her neck? This meeting was so obviously NOT just a couple of friends hanging out. Good work, Blair's agent.
Honestly, I felt awkward watching these two shop around. Their conversation was so clearly forced and Blair had no idea what to do with herself.
On an unrelated note, how many people have been blocked by Blair recently? I was blocked, although this is not shocking, but it seems like many other people who have never even tweeted Blair in their lives have been blocked, as well.
Keep the bullshit and lies coming, ladies, you're digging yourselves deeper and deeper..
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Your kidding right? Blair lies about everything. She wants to be the perfect role model. How do you think parents would feel if their 12 year old daughter came to them asking for a nose job because Blair got one? And think about those people who disagree with plastic surgery.She would never tell anyone because she knows she would get a ton of shit for it.
I knew someone would say she just -grew into- her nose. Sure, I would agree if it wasn't just her tip that was more turned up and thinned out. That doesn't happen naturally.
SHE. HAD. A. NOSE. JOB. PERIOD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=oyQq5y3JHFc&feature=channel
damn she seems so fake in this lol
I can't stand either of the QVC sisters.
Ellen is completely boring and seems like she'd be a stuck up bitch IRL and Lizzy is the biggest liar I've ever seen.
nah, she didn't get a nose job. your pictures don't show anything, plus the tan hides the shape of the nose. get better pictures at least.
blair is pulling a heidi pratt on us.
wonderrrfulll
I agree. I don't believe she got on either and I'm not even a fan.
^haha. I was thinking the same thing when I heard about the nose job.
one*
considering she contours the hell out of her nose in every vid. i dont think we need anymore examples. she did something to her face & her symmetry is off. Now you can see how big her left eye is over her right.
ForeverKailyn
@ellefowler When is your birthday? mines may 18th!
WE KNOW KAI! EVERYONE KNOWS BY NOW! I love how Kai is using any reason she can to bring up when her birthday is. She is beyond greedy.
She did something to her face? She thinned her eyebrows. That does a lot lol. Plus she's pale now.
It could be tons of things. I really think we'll have to wait until she posts another video to have a better idea of if she had a nose job or not.
4:59 - agree. the eyebrows frame the face.
Hi, I met Blair, I was at prom.
Lizzy isn't even that great at makeup so she'd have to have some amazing talent to change the look of her nose to that extent.
I'll start with the suicide rally. Depression hurts. Blood and pills do not.
Why is she so worried about her accent? I think there's nothing wrong with accents. I would much rather listen to a southern accent than that high pitched voice she puts on in her videos.
I think it's too late for Blair in my book. Even if she does go back to her old self, I still will never trust her reviews or anything she says again.
Kai is 8pm where you are....get on blogtv!
is she doing blogtv tonight?
but look at how upturned the TIP is. you can't contour and make the tip turn up. you can make it appear thinner but you can't make it physically turn up with makeup alone.
we should like all comment on one of kai's videos: "when's your birthday?"
it really irritates me how balir calls it 'new york city fashion week.' drop the city, moron. it's obviously held in nyc, no one was getting confused without the city. 'oh, nyfw? where's that, albany?'
@5:09
mte
it really irritates me how balir calls it 'new york city fashion week.' drop the city, moron. it's obviously held in nyc, no one was getting confused without the city. 'oh, nyfw? where's that, albany?'
lmao
and i doubt her nose looks smaller cause of makeup, she has no talent.
can someone get better pictures of it?
I just showed my mom & sister that comparision picture of lizzys nose side by side, and after 3 seconds of looking at it, she said Oh yeah she did. My mom knows about that kind of stuff too. My sister could tell and she wasn't even looking straight at the picture.
I noticed a bit of a change in my face over the years but my nose stayed looking relatively the same. I don't see how she could grow into it in a matter of weeks and to that extent.
lizzy reads this blog as much as she denies it so if she DIDN'T get a nose job, she will address it very quickly.
does anyone have parents who are plastic surgeons? show them lizzys pics and see what they say.
you're an idiot if you haven't realized if you post your fail blog links, they get removed.
and nice job pretending it's an AWETHUM BLOG YOU FOUND. spam your link elsewhere.
If Lizzy says that she didn't get one, I'm not buying it. She lies about everything.
@5:20 No she won't! She won't address until her subscribers question it. Why would you feed a rumor about yourself, esp if it's true!
"My mom knows about that kind of stuff too."
I didn't know your Mom was a plastic surgeon. Lol please.
5:22 She's not a plastic surgeon?
http://i39.tinypic.com/2noghx.jpg
WE GET IT ALREADY, SHUT THE FUCK UP KAI. YOU GREEDY ASS COW! CONGRATUFUCKINGLATIONS ON HAVING A BIRTHDAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET.
/end raging caps
lol.. you guys don't get how plastic surgery works. it takes a year or even more for your nose to swell down to the perfect size you wanted.
Oh, I guess that was you, username "Blair Fowler"-- thought you said you weren't going to promote your failblog here? Commenting as anon saying how awesome your blog is, is pretty lame. It's obvious that it is you doing it. :D
@5:22 ikr! some of these people are stupid. they're the same ones that call her out on her lies, but are quick to believe that if she says she didn't have a nose job it must be true.
"@5:22 ikr! some of these people are stupid. they're the same ones that call her out on her lies, but are quick to believe that if she says she didn't have a nose job it must be true."
Yeah I never understood this... This blog is about exposing them for being LIARS and most of you automatically believe what she says. Wtf? You can't have it both ways.
That nose job rumor has been around here for a long time, even before this video. It's just because she had a fatter nose on her SMALL, YOUNG face. I don't know what you guys expect.
Again, if you grow older and -grow into- your nose, it doesn't make the tip change suddenly. The rest of the nose may change but if you look at this pic:
http://tinypic.com/r/24gvcyq/5
it is very evident that the TIP has been changed and that doesn't just happen along with getting older. Especially if you compare her in this video to a video done just a month ago.
5:25 what are you talking about? i swear I never did that. My "failblog" doesn't even exist yet? <<technically.
click my username, look at my blog. i doesn't have the name that people were spamming. it doesn't have any real posts.
and if you need to I'll give you the last numbers of my ip to prove I wasn't blocked on the chat box.
IT WASN'T ME!
THANK YOU 5:28.
I scrolled back through to try to find that particular screencap and couldn't find it. I guess it was removed. But it is a good one because she's slightly turned to the side and you get a good view of the tip of her nose and thinner nostrils. Contouring can't do that. I don't care if you are Bobbi Brown or the Glam Fairy.
guess we're going to have to wait until she makes a new video and with our luck, she'll be like stone and not move lol
@5:28 #1 you should check out her birthday video. there is a noticeable difference in her nose between that one and this one. as people have said it can't just happen over night.
5:25 (Blair Fowler)
So what you are saying is someone ELSE just happened to find your blog that you haven't even really done anything with and came here to post the link and say how awesome it was?
Your blog link was posted. It's the same gurugames one that is linked to your blogger name.
I guess it was just a random stranger that just ~stumbled~ upon your blog. ;]
There has been speculation about Lizzy's nose before but never to this extent because the change is SO drastic!!
And yeah you can't "grow into" your nose in a matter of weeks and you can't contour your nose to change the entire tip THAT much.
Blair
I saw the gurugame blog link posted before flip deleted it.
give it up.
5:32 someone posted my blog?
god this is looking bad for me...
do you need my ip.. it wasn't me!
i sware to god..... i swore i wouldn't do that and I kept my word.
im serious... whoever did that is a major dick cuz it wasn't me....
For those of you saying she grew into her nose: How do you explain the tip changing so drastically?
@5:33
exactly. this cap really gives a good look at the tip. it's an obvious physical change.
http://tinypic.com/r/24gvcyq/5
5:34
BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T ME!!!!
LIKE HONESTLY I SWARE.....
I CAN STILL POST IN THE CHATBOX!!!!
I actually kind of believe the Blair Fowler girl. She was asking questions about if we would talk shit about it and if it was really worth it etc. IMO, I think it is a troll that's doing it so people will bitch at her. Idk?
She said she wouldn't spam her blog because she knows it pisses people off.. so why would she do it?
5:35 exactly... like I'll give you my ip, i just posted in the chatbox....
what more do i have to give you?
"I actually kind of believe the Blair Fowler girl. She was asking questions about if we would talk shit about it and if it was really worth it etc. IMO, I think it is a troll that's doing it so people will bitch at her. Idk?"
I agree. It's just like people coming in here saying they know one of the gahroos.
They say stuff just to start shit.
5:34 (Blair)
It's not even that big of a deal. And no, I don't need your IP. You can't see IP addresses on this blog, anyway. It wasn't posted on the chatbox. It was posted in a comment here a few minutes ago.
I just thought it was funny that someone came here posting the link saying how awesome it was since there's not even a real post yet.
5:34 It takes a LONG time to 'grow into your nose'. When I was younger my nose looked much bigger than it does now. Now, it looks fine, it looks normal. It won't change that drastically in a month or two...
5:37 thats funny? cuz it wasn't me and I SAID SO MANY DAMN TIMES.... ITS TECHNICALLY NOT A BLOG ANYMORE...
AND STOP AGREEING WITH YOURSELF AS SEVERAL ANONS. MORON.
5:37 thank you. i just don't want everyone judging me for something i didn't do... and if you would've checked the ip on that comment its not the same as mine.
^^and i meant *anyway
I think it's just a troll who's bored and wants to start shit. LOL I guess they want her blog to fail.
5:39 Actually, I'm not the 'Blair Fowler' girl.
Look who is stealing from this blog again
stickylipglossx HOLY SHIT has anyone seen juicystars new VLOG video?! her nose looks REALLY different beyond what contouring can do, I smell a nosejob!
5:39 exactly... and now I can say goodbye to any teeny chance my blog ever had because some asswipe decided to spam my link...
LOL sticky. I feel kind of bad for him. Sucks wanting to become a woman when you have a penis </3
I can't stand Sticky. I wish she could be banned from this blog. She calls herself the Queentrollsupreme, yet she can't even find shit herself. She steels everyone else's ideas.
lmao wow who cares about this new blog nonsense? gtfo.
there's a new kai tutorial to ridicule.
5:42 I check your blog to see if there are any posts. Don't delete it just because someone spammed your link. If they choose not to beleive you then whatever, I believe you and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm not 'Blair Fowler btw lol' My name is Taylor :P
5:43 whatever. i though you said you knew my ip but whatever, since its "nbd"
Lawls, Flip. This little girl just doesn't get it.
Not sure she is comprehending that the chatbox and the comments aren't the same thang.
P.S stickman
GET YOUR OWN MATERIAL YOU MANLY MAN.
how is lizzy suppose to focus on her channels when she is moving to LA this month or next month? i'm pretty sure moving to LA to pursue becoming famous is not being the same "old blair"
5:43 I don't even care about this shit, but all someone would have to do is click on her name and post the link.. just trying to start shit to get her to shut down her blog. She came in here asking if she would get shit for it and said she wouldn't spam it so people wouldn't get mad.
Blair Fowler you're an effing idiot. Flip said the opposite. She said more than once she DIDN'T KNOW YOUR IP.
Maybe if you spent some time on your new blog instead of trying to banter back and forth with one of the Mods, your blog might stand a chance.
omfg.
Move on Blair Fowler. We don't care.
5:47 im aware im retarded. so?
i misunderstood and i went back and forth considering i didn't do it
and if flip said herself it was nbd, then why can't you?
can we please move on from the blog bickering!!! jeeezzz ladies.
I have seen Balirs new video
MICHAEL JACKSON LIVES!
she has the voice too
5:47
I know she did. However, she didn't realize that we would see right through it if she came and posted as anon and was like "OMG Have you seen this new blog? It's so awesome!" and posted the link.
This is all stupid to argue about. Don't spam your failblog links here, end of story. And don't come in as anon and post it either because it's obvious it's you.
^lmao!
5:49 yes please . its stupid . its pretty obvious this girl didn't do it . so just drop if you guys .
It's cool, Blair Fowler. If you say it wasn't you, I believe you. Let's move on, nao. =)
5:50 but it wasn't me. so stop please because i didn't do a damn thing and honestly i have no god damn clue who the hell anon is.
honest to god truth.
so leave me the hell alone.
blair, shut the fuck up already. NO ONE CARES.
Blair. We have said we believe you. Can you pleas just let it go now?
ATTENTION ALL DEARBORN AND/OR TROY MICHIGAN RESIDENTS WHO READ THIS BLOG:
gtfo and quit taking our comments and tweeting them as your own. and fyi, if you take our comments and change one or two words, you're still copying.
You're not funny on your own so you have to come here looking for funny stuff to tweak and repost.
Go take another picture covering your adams apple with your weave, mister.
5:53 im trying to but people keep posting shit at me left and right.. if you want me to shut up stop egging me on saying no one cares obvii people did if they kept posting about it.
OMG Flip i kind of wish you COULD ban this blair fowler chick. She won't let it go. NO ONE CARES yet she keeps bringing it up. Little girl:
FLIP SAID SHE BELIEVED YOU (althought i dont) so DROP IT. k?
just watched blair's new vlog. please, she'll never go back to the way she was. she's too far gone.
http://twitter.com/account/profile_image/stickylipglossx?hreflang=en
uhhh that doesn't even look like a real person...it looks like a doll....
you people are absolutely fucking retarded. all of you.
you all seriously need to be shot.
Blair, shut up sweetie. its done w/. its all good now.
5:55 your not helping the cause either....
BLAIR IN THE MIRROR
Im taking about that Blair in the mirror!
Im talking why her nose dis way?!
Ow!
Im taking about that Blair in the mirror!
IfyourgoingtomakethechangegottomakethechangegottobreakupyournoseblameyoureyebrowsandfoolyoursubbiesTHIS WAY!
NANANA NANANA NA NA NA NA NAAAAAAAA
THANK YOU THANK YOU
BLAIR FOWLERS NOSE HAS NOW LEFT THE BUILDING
it's really fucking annoying when sticky lurks the comments here and then mentions what we're talking about on twitter.
@6:00
hahah. nice.
@6:00 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
6:00 amen.
6:01
well she obviously does it to piss us off.
MakeupbyMel
Anyone know where else I can get 24" hair extensions besides proextensions.com? Getting annoying paying $200 for them.
Apparently, she wants to look even more trashy than she already does. It's not enough to have concealer lips and refuse to leave her house without her precious false lashes, now she wants hair extensions..
i'm surprised sticky hasn't tried to start her own fail guru blog taking the shit from here and posting it as her own like she does on twitter.
Love it @6:00!!
LOL@6:00pm
SHITBALLS!
So say hello to all the boys at the top of this table that you're under :]
"So you’re a prefect candidate if you want corrective surgery on the tip of the nose and the nostrils since the process concentrates on this particular feature of the nose."
ding ding ding.
her nostrils are thinner and her tip is higher. she had a minor nose job just on the tip.
I barely watch Lizzy's vids anymore but I won't be able to at all now with that nose job. That's the whole reason why I can't watch itsjudytime.
Flip mentioned "tipoplasty" which i had never heard of so i googled it and it basically just refines the tip of the nose. It's not like a full blown nose job so the recovery/swelling/etc is pretty easy. She's had plenty of time to have done it considering the amount of time since she posted her last video before her vlog today.
Why do you think she mentioned her eyebrows? Because she knew people would notice so she mentioned that to make people think, oh she just looks different bc of her eyebrows
6:14 she's smart. aint she?
why does lizzy say in her new vlog that lisa "made" her do youtube videos? in the past, lizzy has said that she "begged" her parents to let her do videos too because she thought it was so cool but they wouldn't let her until she agreed to say she was 18.
i agree ^^
by mentioning her eyebrows she figured that would stop any comments about how she looks different.
she looked way better before. LISA is the one who needed the nosejob, and her twin brother stickylipgloss
thanks a lot kai. i can't order a baconator without hearing her giggle exhales anymore.
MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU CLASSSSS
MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU CLASSSSS
Don't rule out the possibility of ellen having gotten a nose job too. We haven't seen a new video from her yet.
"HER TWIN BROTHER STICKYLIPGLOSS"
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO IRL
So once again, no Blogtv tonight for Kai? I'm surprised...I thought she'd want to tell us more about her birthday. :P
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2010/05/rhnydancingb51410.gif
on her last blogtv, she told us it was her birthday 28 times in the span of 2 hours. no joke.
Has Kai ever had a contest for her subscribers since she started Youtube?
"God, you guys need to stop making all this lemonade. Seriously, it's just like drama drama drama everywhere, like you guys have all these lemons and you just keep making lemonade! You're sick! Sick and demented!"
6:25 Never.
someone's a little obsessed with RHNY
I bet on her mothers birthday, she'll just get her mom a card or cheap flowers. Meanwhile, her mom will be spending over $300 on Kai. Such a greedy child.
Poor mj leave him out of this! weirdo
I used to feel somewhat bad for Kai, but it's obvious that she is greedy! She has all of that make-up, yet she could never once do a contest for her subscribers. Irene is nice enough to send her a gift for her birthday and her response is "when will it get here." Wow. Can we say spoiled little brat!?
Kai- stop hoarding and be grateful once!!!
I am loling at "everkai90" so hard. idek.
She probably won't even remember her mom's birthday seeing as it's so close to her's...and we know nothing else comes close to that holy day.
Everyone sends Kai gifts but she never gets them anything. I wonder what she'll buy for her mom on her MOM'S birthday?!
Kai keeps reminding people over and over about her stupid birthday to get more presents when she's the LAST person who needs more stuff.
Kai is seriously the most selfish YouTuber I have ever come across.
I bet Kai won't get her mother anything!
I actually just got a nosejob last Wednesday, I had a splint on until Tuesday and I looked totally normal except one eyelid got slightly bruised. Easily covered with makeup. And I got a full blown rhinoplasty, a bump removed and my bridge thinned. I haven't seen her new video yet because I'm not home currently but if she only got a tipoplasty it's definitely possible for her to be healed already.
But she was in ct for that kids prom so idk how the timing would have worked out. Shed need at least a week for the splint to be taken off.
Well technically makeup is a wasteful product anyway it's a nessicty (howerver you spell it) to survival. But I get where everyone is coming from I felt disgusted seeing all that makeup as well I mean I couldn't believe she stored it in her DRESSER DRAWERS she has to be pretty selfish to not give any of that away to her subscribers or "friends"
that is why balir has been away so long.
can we tweet lisa to sing @6:00pm to make balir feel better
HAHAHHHAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvNchFAUim8
hay guise I have a hayl for you~
you can't call it haul like the rest of the idiots on youtube? omg that beats all of kristin/kalel's stupid ~loot~ videos
I mean to say it's not a nessecity!
I can't stand hayleyistcb.
Quad, are you on Makeuplley?
6:34 I personally like Hayley but its really gay how she says hayl....
TBH you guiz, Kailyn is being a typical only child right now.
This is exactly why only children get bad reps....because some of them aren't used to SHARING and GIVING because they don't have any siblings.
"But she was in ct for that kids prom so idk how the timing would have worked out. Shed need at least a week for the splint to be taken off."
i agree
I seriously don't know what Kai does with all that makeup. She doesn't have much a of a social life, so I doubt she leaves the house much. So why the need for so effing much makeup!
What's her obsession with running out and buying every product she hears about on Youtube. At least wait until you work through some of that stuff first. FFS!
@6:40 She said she wears makeup every day.... and she said Davey (Her BOYFRIEND of HOW MANY YEARS) has only ever seen her without makeup once or twice. So basically she just cakes it on everyday regardless... no wonder her skin is bad.
@6:34 or whatever--it also kind of annoys me how she says "plethora" "pleather-a".
i wonder what would have happened if Kai never came across youtube? just hang out with Davey for the rest of her life and not get into makeup?
you guys need to go see letters to juliet.
you too, kailyn.
"
What's her obsession with running out and buying every product she hears about on Youtube. "
Because she wants to be like everyone else. She wants to be the people on Youtube and the people on the tv shows she obsesses over. She'll copy any guru, it's hilarious. She would give her soul to be "cool".
not all that glitters; thanks for the title idea ;)
@quad:
Ooooh yeah--I had forgotten you said you had your nose done. Now I remember us talking in kai's blogtv about the CV Target sandals you hadn't gotten to wear yet because you were still recovering. :]
I think she got tip work done but that's it.
new post <3
how old is kai turning- like 19 or 20? i would understand if she was turning a significant age like 16 or 21, but turning 19 or 20 is no big deal
HEY TROK you lard
go live since kailyn wont
new post <3
flip---you're SUCH a dumbass. they were linking a blog that is different than "blair fowler"'s. are you 12? what part of that is hard to understand?
hahahah wow. she's SUCH an idiot. her dad's fucking website has a picture of him, which clearly states each of the girls' birth names, and then adds a picture of him and miranda? smart going, lizzy.
w
I don't think she got a nose job. In the video from the prom (which took place a little over a week ago) her nose looks the same. 3:25 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkI5bCRkXc
not all nose jobs alter the side-view of your nose, you know. her nose looks all fugs from the front which leads me to believe she had the TIP of her nose altered, not the bridge.
Here at www.secretconquest.co.uk we are glad the truth has come out.
We were indeed asked for $500 for Elle to review us.
We were told by Blairs Agent to be "glad" they have cut us a fair deal and usual review start from $1000 and upwards depending on the detail.
We celebrated at the outcome of the New York Times Article.
This girl's hair is hotttttt
too bad she dosent make videos anymore
http://www.youtube.com/user/HollYWooDDiamonds#p/u/0/mNKuTKGUZeg
has anyone seen macbarbies sister? i think she looks like blair/lizzie.
I sometimes like their videos, but I don't trust them, their reviews, or even their tutorials anymore. I mean why do they keep using NYX cosmetics? Their reviews are complete crap and they are just plain bitchy sometimes. I have no sympathy for them at all.
LOL I thought this was cheesey when I saw it. Not to mention I hate the fact that Forever21 is not getting called out be the FCC. Hello F21. Seriously for a company that is so large you'd think they would at least keep records of everything they do, but god forbid they get caught. Too bad there clothes are so cute. Then again if American Apparel can get away with outlandish business practices so can F21. Welcome to the fashion industry I guess.
It's such an obvious lie that she needed $4000 for editing costs! I understand that they're trying to make money, even if they didn't start on Youtube expecting money. I also understand that they probably don't work, which again, is fine with me if they want to make money. But to completely lie instead of saying "I charge $4,000" considering the amount of views my videos tend to generate" is just ridiculous! I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio, which costs no more than $40 to use for as long as I'd like. Who in their right mind would even consider paying $4,000 to edit a 10 minute video max? Not Elle (or Lisa. Whatever floats your boat).
To May 7, 2010 11:36 AM:
I would.
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